cynicalkit wrote:
so i got some glucosamine something with mgm or something like that... ill see how that works in a few weeks i guess... i only started worrying about this because recently it went from sore muscles after riding to sometimes a shooting pain down my spine or grinding knees...Yup I use that stuff too. And it's MSM, mgm is a movie company

It'll take a few weeks (up to six) to really notice a difference, so don't get discouraged. Plus if you stop taking it for even a short time the start up can take just as long so don't forget to take it regularly. My left knee hurts after I went down on Palomar about 5 years ago, that and strong legs, and stretching help the most. I have arthritis now, so icing then only makes them hurt. But heat helps to relax them a bit, but be careful if they are a bit weak, then relaxing them can actually make them twist easier because the muscles can't hold the knee together.